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Having a positive experience with online gaming depends on a number of factors. While the quality of the service provided by the online casino is important, we’ve found that a lot the negative experiences reported by players often originates from their own decisions. One of these problematic areas surrounds the topic of credit card use and chargebacks. There are a number of reasons that players decide to perform a chargeback with an online casino.
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In some cases, the decision might be justified, but we have the tendency to believe that most chargebacks done by players are in fact not fair to the online casino. The problem is that players don’t understand the consequences of online casino chargebacks, which influence both the player’s continuation as an online casino fan, and the industry as a whole.
Play Smart
Making smart choices as an online casino player is central to having an enjoyable casino experience. For some reason, when it comes to anything casino-related, some people have a strange attitude with regards to how they relate to a casino as a business. Maybe it’s because of the “beat the house” idea. Or maybe it’s the fact that the relationship between a casino and its customers is based around a sensitive issue – money. Whatever the reason is, your attitude as a player is important in ensuring that you can have the best time possible playing casino games online.
Many of the most important decisions you can make as an online casino player revolve around how you manage your funds. You need to know how much money you can afford to lose before you start playing. While we don’t play casino games in order to lose, it is a possible mathematical outcome. If you prepare for this outcome, you will be able to play casino games online without a care in the world. And the added bonus is, you will enjoy your wins even more.
How does this relate to chargebacks? Well, many players choose to perform a chargeback for emotional reasons. It’s not that they truly believe they’ve been scammed by an online casino, but instead, the experience of losing more money than they should have allowed themselves to, creates an intense feeling of remorse and anger. This then leads them to the idea that need to fight back and the opponent becomes the online casino. This emotional reaction contradicts any rationality since online casinos don’t force anyone to deposit money or play games. It’s always the choice of the player. It’s your responsibility to manage your money, and if you end up spending more than you should, that’s on you.
Performing a Chargeback against a Fraudulent Casino
In cases where a player is scammed by an online casino, or any other fraudulent online business, it of course makes sense to perform a chargeback. If you are certain that your money has been taken illegally from you, then it’s part of the credit card company’s service to help protect you and your money. The thing is, an illegal act is something that clearly oversteps a legal boundary. There are no grey areas. If the casino is licensed, if you are a legitimate player (over 18 years old etc.), and if you’ve agreed to the terms and conditions, there’s not much you can do to really prove that the casino has done you wrong. Yes, it’s possible that you’ve stumbled upon an activity used by the casino to cheat players, but most of the major online casino brands don’t do that kind of thing. If you do feel that you’ve been cheated and that the law has been broken, then by all means perform a chargeback and seek legal advice immediately. However, if your claims that the online casino is “unfair” are based upon statements that can be considered completely subjective such as “I played 3 different slots for 3 hours and only won twice”, then wait a moment before you act. Do you really think you’ve been cheated? Or, is this an emotional response to having lost money?
It might seem that we’re taking the side of the online casinos here, but that’s a very short-sighted viewpoint. In actually fact, we’re trying to protect players by highlighting the truth – your money is your responsibility and stepping over a line and then trying to fix things with a chargeback can have serious consequences.
Gambling Chargebacks – What are the Consequences?
If you’ve come out of a disappointing session playing at an online casino, in the heat of the moment, you might feel that performing a chargeback to stop your money from being transferred is a good idea. What you might not take into account is the consequences of going through with a chargeback.
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Online transactions make dealing with money seem a little bit like a game, but the truth is that it’s no different to making payments in real life. In a sense, although this might be a bit extreme, a chargeback is like buying some shoes in a store, and then walking back in and taking your money, while keeping the shoes. If you think that sounds like stealing, you’re right. An online casino doesn’t promise to make you rich and will never guarantee you will always win. It makes much more sense to think of an online casino as an entertainment service. You pay the casino with the money you lose so that the casino can pay its employees, develop new software, market itself and give you perks. Yes, of course the casino is making a profit, but that’s what businesses are out to do.
This is the core of the problem and where a lot of players get into trouble. Performing a chargeback is like stealing, or, like claiming that the online casino itself is stealing. When you perform a chargeback, you are essentially telling the credit card company that you’ve identified a company with malicious behavior. The credit card company takes your side, since you’re their client, and they cancel the payment. What players don’t realise, is that at this point, the credit card company targets the online casino as being a potentially criminal organization. This can lead to the casino not being able to offer that credit card to players. In the case of major credit cards, it can also lead to an online casino closing completely.
On the side of the player, since a chargeback can be so harmful to an online casino, that player will undoubtedly be banned. But things could even go further. The casino might warn others about the “problem player” making sure to ban that player completely. So, from trying to cancel your losses, you can be banned completely from playing at online casinos.
In Conclusion
In cases where you’re sure you’ve been scammed and had your money illegally taken from you, then performing a chargeback makes sense. The law will be on your side. However, in all other situations, always keep in mind that performing a chargeback is a very serious act towards an online casino. It can cause a lot of trouble for the casino, and since it’s like using a service but refusing to pay for it, it can cause a lot of trouble for you as well. In any case, our advice is to try not to make any rash decisions based upon emotion. Remember that there are consequences. Instead, manage your funds and make sure you are playing with amounts that don’t’ affect your household budget.
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Charging back online casino transactions is unethical!
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Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! I've heard from a few friends of mine that they've racked up large credit card debt due to playing at online casinos and what they did to handle this seemed very unethical to me. They told me that after the racked up this debt on their credit cards they'd call the credit card companies and request that these charges be reversed. They said that they managed to succeed in several cases. If you for example were to buy something keep the item that you purchased and then call the credit card company and told them that you didn't buy that item it would be considered stealing. I think that the same thing applies here... The idea that you can charge as much as you wanted on your credit card and then reverse it seems wrong and nothing short of theft. Anyways I told this to my friends and they didn't really acknowledge the idea that it's considered theft... What do people here thing about this? | |
| Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:03 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! Charging back or reversing credit card transactions as related to online casinos has become a lot more difficult. Not only is it unethical but it can certainly lead to a lot of issues which I'll outline before. Working in the baking industry myself I know what some of these repercussions are both from the standpoint of the credit card companies, the banks and the casinos. 1.) If you charge back and you have a history of making credit card transactions that are related to gaming it's very unlikely that the bank will actually reverse the transaction. 2.) If you do charge back and are able to do so successfully (again very difficult to do these days) then you'll be listed as a higher risk user to the credit card companies. 3.) Casinos will definitely 100% blacklist you at the casino if you charge back and if you're luck and only if you're lucky you'd still be able to play at the casino but only by using deposit methods that are of '0' risk to the casino in terms of chargebacks. 4.) If you chargeback successfully there's a good chance that you'll be blacklisted on the entire casino software providers network. For example if you charge back at a Microgaming casino since they all share a negative database of users who have issued chargebacks in the past this information could be used to ban you globally across all Microgaming casino brands. There are several other reasons why you wouldn't want to charge back but these are merely to hightlight a few key points as to why I don't think it's a good idea to do so! | |
| Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:17 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! Yeah speaking as someone with expereince whatever you do don't charge back it's not worth the headaches and hassles that it brings with it. The only time a charge back is worth committing is when the charge that has come though on your credit card genuinely isn't yours to begin with. Seriously don't do it if you can avoid it... | |
| Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:53 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! Thanks everyone for your replies to my questions it's greatly appreciated... I've always felt like it wasn't worth it the whole charegback thing nor did I ever intend on issuing a chargeback myself I was merely more curious to know what people though of this situation. I definitely think it's wrong nor will I ever take such action unless the transactions I find on my credit card are genuinely fraudulent and charges that I never made to being with. | |
| Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:46 pm | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! What the heck does a fax back form do for the casino. It's not like they can send that to a US bank. A cc user can't legally authorize a casino to deduct from their account because of the UIGEA, nor can they authorize the casino to mask the charges as merchandise purchases - that is money laundering. So what does this form really provide for the casino? | |
| Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:47 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! Well my personal view on it is that it's more of a scare tactic. You are correct for transactions that are processed though the casino where they are being processed uncoded (ie. where 7995 is being bypassed) online casinos have no recourse. However the laws pertaining to the UIGEA are fairly ambiguous and because of that there are still several banks in the US that are not blocking 7995 coded online gambling related transactions. For those transactions that are processed legitimately though banks in the United States they do have recourse though the fax back form. I suppose the problem with charging back is that you never really know if the transaction is one that can be deemed legitimate or an uncoded transaction. Still my views are in line with those discussed herein. I don't think it's ethical to charge back transactions for money you did really spend. Especially when there's a chance it can come back around and bite you in the ass. | |
| Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:29 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! So a copy of someones id and credit card, really won't help the casino either if the transactions are coded wrong. | |
| Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:54 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! Yes that's correct however with transactions that are properly coded there is recourse for online casinos that can be taken with banks to issue legitimate claims. Since there's no way to tell for certain whether the transaction is coded or not it's really not worth it. Moreover credit card companies do not look fondly on people that charge back credit card transactions. | |
| Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:27 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! I agree with what bugatto is saying here in that it's really not worth it. Especially in the long run you're really working against yourself if you make chargebacks on legitimate online casino transactions at online casinos or any other gambling type activities you might involve yourself in online. | |
| Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:50 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! What about when the charge back is ligit? I am in the process of claiming in excess of £2000 that was deposited to a online casino from my bank account. I know 100% fact that i never made these transactions and the bank is making feel like a criminal. I have no history of using online or bricks and mortar casinos except for the odd online poker game that has never cost more than $10 or so. Does this mean I will get a bad credit rating? I dnt care about being banned from any casino because I dont use them. Your thoughts would be apreciated. Many thanks | |
| Thu May 27, 2010 11:43 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! Its simply as this, don't make other transactions in your account that are not important and irrelevance to your concerns, the point of view of this statement its between your action and the result of the transaction in your account whether its your concern or not. | |
| Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:53 pm | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! It is actually fraud and highly illegal because you are claiming that someone else has stolen your details and make those transactions without your approval. Its a risky solution which could get you into even bigger problems. Aaron www.highstack.co.uk | |
| Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:35 am | |
Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! hi i just got in an orrible situation with casinitital, do anybody knows if it is a us legally gambling site. My orrible experienced, the halcool did muck but the gambling addiction desises made it happen. I'v connected from italy my provisory 30days debit visa from BAmerica my account in Florida. Start making a few deposit, but whare strange, without 3dsecure visa pass. By the way y got in the casino net and they started pushing me to dep with promotions and gift, but i whasn't in my totally brain and conceus status. And the pushig activity by casino titan suppoprt, promotions, activityes brought me in a compleat status of illucinazation status. I start playng almost every game, turnament, bonus the feed me in s verey strange way with transactions never get to the end of the legal proces. I'm dualcytizen italian-usa, live in rome italy but have relatives and social security, driverr llicens, US bank accout in florida. .i'm I in the right to ask to dispute by my bank, that did.t stop such illegal end convulsivity deposit, did by me or by6 the sistem don't know how be sure, to ask for a compleat refund of alla the transaction, made illegal by the state where gambling is not allowed, because they used actions of peruising me to play in a very strange and irresponsable way. Can anybody help me, please? Godfrey | |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:11 pm Posts: 1 | Re: Charging back online casino transactions is unethical! I recently used POSH VIP Casino, Do not use them, or any casino related to them. They are a bunch of scammers. I've used Silver Oak Casino and I believe they are related as well. I've never had a problem with Silver Oak. I'm at this point having to request a reversal because I tried to deposit one day and it gave me a generic error and when chatting I asked what to do. It happened a total of 3 times and I was told the money would not come out of my bank. The next day I go to use my card and I notice I'm down the exact amount of money that I would have been charged had the deposits gone through and then I go online and confirm that the three times it gave me an error and did not post to my account it charged my card. then they tell me its a pre authorization and will fall off even though while on one phone with them and one phone with the bank, the bank told me at the same time this is not an authorization is is a full on charge. I agree its very unethical for a player to charge back something they used but in my case I never got that opportunity. Now I am having to go through my bank to get my money back. Not only has this happened but when I've shown plenty of proof with screenshots from my bank, of course blacking out what is none of their businesses, they say thats not enough. Do not use Posh VIP Casino, they are scammers and I do genuinely hope that Silver Oak is not related to them. |
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